Common
Trinity
Personality
of the Spirit
Christ
Preliminary
Strategy
Genesis 1:26
Genesis
3:22
Isaiah 9:6
Matthew
1:23
Matthew 28:19
John 1:1-3
John 3:13
John 5:23
John 6:33,38,51
John 6:62
John 8:23
John 8:58
John 10:17,18
John 10:30
John 14:9
John 17:5
John 20:28
Romans 9:5
Philippians 2:6
Col. 1:15,16
Eph. 4:8-10
Hebrews 1:2
Hebrews 1:8
Hebrews 1:10-12
Hebrews 7:3
Hebrews 10:5
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John 4:3
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John 5:20
Revelation 3:14
Soul
Heaven
Hell
Satan/Demons
"Saved"
Baptism
Resurrection
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Catholic
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SDA
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- John 6:33
- "For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven."
- John 6:38
- "I came down from heaven."
- John 6:51
- "I am the living bread which came down from heaven."
- John 6:58
- "This is that bread which came down from heaven."
- Problem:
- These passages are considered to be proof that Jesus existed in heaven prior to his coming to the earth.
- Solution:
- The words of this chapter were an "hard saying" (vs. 60) and as a result "many of his disciples went back and walked no more with him". (vs. 66). An understanding of the analogy with the manna provides the key to the right understanding of this passage.
- The bread "from heaven" (vs. 31) did not mean that it was actually manufactured in heaven and descended through the atmosphere, but rather that it was produced on the earth by God's Holy Spirit power. "From heaven", therefore, emphasizes the divine origin of the bread.
- Similarly, Christ came down from heaven, not literally, since it was the Holy Spirit which descended upon the virgin Mary to effect the conception. (Luke 1:35). "From heaven" emphasizes his divine origin as a person (i.e., his father was God) and the divine origin of his teaching. Unlike the manna which profited only temporarily, his words were "spirit" and "life". (vs. 63).
To help us understand Jesus' words in John 6, it is useful to compare
them with those of John 16:28-30
John 16:28 "I came forth from the Father, and have come into the
world; I am leaving the world again, and going to the Father." 29 His
disciples said, "Lo, now You are speaking plainly, and are not using
a figure of speech. 30 "Now we know that You know all things, and
have no need for anyone to question You; by this we believe that You came
from God."
In John 16:28, Jesus stated that he "came forth from the
Father". The Father, of course, is in heaven. So when Jesus makes
mention that he (Jesus) came down from heaven, it means the same thing as
"coming forth from the Father". So then, what does it mean to
"come forth from the Father"? One should not take his
words literally, but rather Jesus' statement should be read
figuratively. How do we know this for certain? In John 16:30
notice how the disciples understood Jesus' statement. When the disciples
heard Jesus say, "I came forth from the Father", they understood
these words NOT to mean that Jesus pre-existed in heaven, and came down
and took up habitation in Mary's womb. No! Rather, the disciples
understood Jesus' statement as meaning, "We know that you know all
things, and have no need for anyone to question you; by THIS we
believe that You came from God." The disciples did not
take Jesus' statement literally. They understood Jesus as speaking
in figures.
This figure of speech is also repeated in John 6. In John 6:42 the
Jews ask, "Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and
mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from
heaven?" The Jews stumbled over Jesus' words, for they took Jesus
statement literally. In trying to explain what he meant, Jesus quotes from
the OT...
John 6:45 "It is written in the prophets, 'And they shall all be
taught of God.'
So we see that "being taught of God" is what is meant by
"coming forth from God". It is a figure of speech, and not to be
taken literally. If we continue to read in John 6, we will see that Jesus
often speaks figuratively...
In John 6, you will see that Jesus is comparing himself to the manna
from heaven. John 6:51 says, "I am the living bread which came down
from heaven." So we see that Jesus is speaking
figuratively...not literally...he compares himself to bread/manna.
Jesus later says that we must eat his flesh and drink his blood, but
Protestants do not take his words literally, do we? In John 6:31 the
manna is referred to as "bread from heaven". The literal
translation is "bread out of the heaven". Does one think
that the manna was baked by the angels in heaven, and then was hurled by
the Father towards the earth at the speed of light, and then landed on the
desert floor? When something (or someone) is described as
having come from God, it means that its/his source can be attributed to
God. The source of the manna can be attributed to God, therefore the manna
is described as "bread out of heaven". The "source" of
Jesus is the Father, and therefore Jesus could correctly state that he
came from heaven (i.e. from God). But such a statement does not mean that
Jesus pre-existed in heaven before his birth, no more than it means that
the manna pre-existed in heaven before it appeared in the desert.
If we continue reading John 6, we learn some other important truths about
who Jesus is...
John 6:46 "Not that any man has seen the Father, except the One who
is from God; He has seen the Father.
Notice that Jesus says that he is "from God". Jesus does not
state that he (Jesus) is God. Clearly Jesus is separate from God.
Jesus was misunderstood by the Jews, for the Jews took him literally. As a
result, many of Jesus' disciples forsook him. In spite of all this,
it is worth noting what Peter said at the conclusion of John 6...
John 6:67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? 68 Then
Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words
of eternal life. 69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that
Christ, the Son of the living God.
After hearing all that Jesus said about himself "coming from
heaven," what was Peter's response? Did Peter finally
comprehend that Jesus was in fact God the Son as Trinitarians
assert? No! Rather Peter said, "You art that Christ, the
Son of the living God."
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